once they cross that " line" does it matter?

[mudd]

My friend, photographer in Medellin was here yesterday for a photo shoot. He likes to use my apartment for when girls want to take photos in lingerie or xxx.  Which I don’t mind lol
 
 
So anyways, the girl yesterday. About 22, really cute face, nice body.  Shows up with her makeup lady.  An hour to do make up wow, talk about bored.  So while they were doing make up, I ask my friend, whats the deal with this girl. He tells me, she is going to mexico to “ work” in mexico city and wherever she is going too work they require sexy photos.  Hummm… ok…… "she can make  $500 to $ 1000 USD per day as a prepago".   
After a while, during the shoot, I start talking to her, she speak some English. So we are talking back and forth between English and Spanish.  I ask her what she studies, where she lives, when she is going to mexico, ect. I didn’t ask what work she will be doing in mexico because my friend already told me.
 
So the scoop is, she studies hotel management and int business, explains the English. She lives in Medellin with her mom and brother.  Is on a marriage website, dating website, ( didn ask which ones) knows a fair amount of gringos. So  he could easily find a rich gringo for money to support her or for marriage.   So i was asking my buddy, why in  the hell she wants to go to mexico to be a prostitute?
His words “ its all about the money”
 
So my questions is, when she returns from mexico. Any guy with a clue, knows any Paisa going to panama or mexico to “ work”  knows what she was doing there. Sooner or later, her past will probably come up. Who would want her? Would it matter???  Thoughts?

[Elexpatriado]

Thats why any serious guy doesnt go for the really hot ones Mudd. 5 to 7 out of 10, eductated, good family,


And stay out of Medellin. Even Cali has better girls (barely). And any girl thats been to Panama, Aruba, the Carribean, the Emirates, Mexico , Coat Rica, or even sometimes Spain and Europe-highly suspicious.


But youll nevere find anything perfect in Colombia. Betetr than back home for us old farts.But putas and  ex putas forget it. Who wants to be capn salva puta.


But then you know my story, been there and done that


Only my opinion

[benjio]

My friend, photographer in Medellin was here yesterday for a photo shoot. He likes to use my apartment for when girls want to take photos in lingerie or xxx.  Which I don’t mind lol
 
 
So anyways, the girl yesterday. About 22, really cute face, nice body.  Shows up with her makeup lady.  An hour to do make up wow, talk about bored.  So while they were doing make up, I ask my friend, whats the deal with this girl. He tells me, she is going to mexico to “ work” in mexico city and wherever she is going too work they require sexy photos.  Hummm… ok…… "she can make  $500 to $ 1000 USD per day as a prepago".   
After a while, during the shoot, I start talking to her, she speak some English. So we are talking back and forth between English and Spanish.  I ask her what she studies, where she lives, when she is going to mexico, ect. I didn’t ask what work she will be doing in mexico because my friend already told me.
 
So the scoop is, she studies hotel management and int business, explains the English. She lives in Medellin with her mom and brother.  Is on a marriage website, dating website, ( didn ask which ones) knows a fair amount of gringos. So  he could easily find a rich gringo for money to support her or for marriage.   So i was asking my buddy, why in  the hell she wants to go to mexico to be a prostitute?
His words “ its all about the money”
 
So my questions is, when she returns from mexico. Any guy with a clue, knows any Paisa going to panama or mexico to “ work”  knows what she was doing there. Sooner or later, her past will probably come up. Who would want her? Would it matter???  Thoughts?

I wouldn't...HELL NAH! Too many beautiful girls SOTB without the undesirable resume. But my experience here in Latin America has taught me that beauty can make a man very forgiving of a woman's past. Sometimes to the extent where they'll completely ignore it. Almost every older gringo I know that lives in Rio and is seriously dating or married to a super hot girl met her while she was on the job. Depending on where her head and heart is at the time, I guess it can work. The popular saying goes "You can't turn a hoe into a housewife." However, I've run across a few men that don't agree. Some are of the opinion that after some women have lived such a fast lifestyle they can be much more appreciative of a more settled down, domesticated existence. I rather not risk it.

[Elexpatriado]

Anybody that would sacrifice their morals, values and principals for money "no vale ni mierda" as a taxi driver once told me..


I aint buying it eithe Benjio.."You can take the Colombiana outta Colombia, but you cant take the Colombia outta the Colombiana"


That applies to hos as well. If you want a Puta, go to a whore house and get one. For gods sake dont marry one.

[bernard]

 
So my questions is, when she returns from mexico. Any guy with a clue, knows any Paisa going to panama or mexico to “ work”  knows what she was doing there. Sooner or later, her past will probably come up. Who would want her? Would it matter???  Thoughts?

Sounds like you might be considering it....otherwise why ask the question that has an obvious answer, which is no.

[mudd]

me, no way, ive seen a few guys here crash and burn trying  to do it. the girls were definately hot, but wowwww. talk about drama and headaches. i prefer 6's,7's and 8's..... 9's and 10's, too much to deal with,

[bernard]

me, no way, ive seen a few guys here crash and burn trying  to do it. the girls were definately hot, but wowwww. talk about drama and headaches. i prefer 6's,7's and 8's..... 9's and 10's, too much to deal with,

Well, that's good, you had me worried for a second...

[Awesome]

me, no way, ive seen a few guys here crash and burn trying  to do it. the girls were definately hot, but wowwww. talk about drama and headaches. i prefer 6's,7's and 8's..... 9's and 10's, too much to deal with,

Huh?  So you're saying you'd marry a hooker as long as she's not a 9 or a 10?  Coming from you, that doesn't surprise me one bit.

[utopiacowboy]

I guess everyone has their line as to what they will do for money but I wouldn't feel too smug about it. After having worked for a large corporation for many years, I felt like I was getting it up the poop chute many a time but the money was always good! As for working girls, they provide a necessary service which in spite of all the do-gooders attempts since the dawn of time is a profession that will never go away. So the poor little paisas are worse than the legions of would-be American sugar babies on every web site known to man looking for sugar daddies? 

[benjio]

I guess everyone has their line as to what they will do for money but I wouldn't feel too smug about it. After having worked for a large corporation for many years, I felt like I was getting it up the poop chute many a time but the money was always good! As for working girls, they provide a necessary service which in spite of all the do-gooders attempts since the dawn of time is a profession that will never go away. So the poor little paisas are worse than the legions of would-be American sugar babies on every web site known to man looking for sugar daddies?

We're on the same page. I've never judged any girl that wanted to sell her body. We all fall short of the glory, right? I have some very good friends in Latin America and the U.S. that are working girls (prostitutes, exotic dancers, etc.). There's a lot to be learned from the smarter ones. But as stated previously...I wouldn't EVER try to turn one into a housewife. Outside of the fact that she may be more sexually experienced and knows a few tricks in bed, I've never understood why any man would.


My only problem is with the many prostitutes/prepagos/GDP's that try to present themselves as something much less sinister when the naive gringo comes to town or hops on a webcam. That pisses me off!    There's too many honest, good girls out there for any man to have to settle for a working girl once he's decided he wants a committed relationship; and there's too many guys out there willing to pay for it and play the sponsor role for any working girl to try and scam an honest guy. I'm about keeping it real. Makes everything much less complicated.

[robert angel]

I guess everyone has their line as to what they will do for money but I wouldn't feel too smug about it. After having worked for a large corporation for many years, I felt like I was getting it up the poop chute many a time but the money was always good! As for working girls, they provide a necessary service which in spite of all the do-gooders attempts since the dawn of time is a profession that will never go away. So the poor little paisas are worse than the legions of would-be American sugar babies on every web site known to man looking for sugar daddies?

Not judging them as 'good' or 'bad', but personally, I don't think I could reconcile the history of a girl who on a regular, commercial basis--even if it was 'just' for months, sold her body --'services' if you prefer, for money.

Once they've done that, they're forever aware that their body and those services have a material, commercial value they can return to. They've effectively gone from merely being a person to being a commodity.

Things hit a rough patch between you and her, someone loses a job and that's always a 'back up option' she can recall.

I know certain guys here are thinking "How about all those USA girls you have to wine and dine, give chocolates and flowers to, to eventually get them (maybe) into the sack?"-but I still feel it's different.

[robert angel]

Not judging them as 'good' or 'bad', but personally, I don't think I could reconcile the history of a girl who on a regular, commercial basis--even if it was 'just' for months, sold her body --'services' if you prefer, for money.

Once they've done that, they're forever aware that their body and those services have a material, commercial value they can return to. They've effectively gone from merely being a person to being a commodity.

Things hit a rough patch between you and her, someone loses a job and that's always a 'back up option' she can recall.

I know certain guys here are thinking "How about all those USA girls you have to wine and dine, give chocolates and flowers to, to eventually get them (maybe) into the sack?"-but I still feel it's different.

We're on the same page. I've never judged any girl that wanted to sell her body. We all fall short of the glory, right? I have some very good friends in Latin America and the U.S. that are working girls (prostitutes, exotic dancers, etc.). There's a lot to be learned from the smarter ones. But as stated previously...I wouldn't EVER try to turn one into a housewife. Outside of the fact that she may be more sexually experienced and knows a few tricks in bed, I've never understood why any man would.


My only problem is with the many prostitutes/prepagos/GDP's that try to present themselves as something much less sinister when the naive gringo comes to town. That pisses me off! 
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[fathertime]

I'd say there are a lot of compromised men traveling about the world.  For a man who knows he is comprised himself, looking past this may not be hard.  I have an old buddy who was willingly engaged to a former 'sex worker'. It went bad before he brought her over...but given his own numerous shortcomings I think he felt it was the best he could do...and he may have been on a similar level and that might have boded well for a marriage...or maybe not...

Many if not most men probably don't feel severely compromised and would be far better served finding a lady who hasn't been compromised herself..they can probably relate better together.

Fathertime!

[Gato4Astrid]

hotel management and int business
she studies hotel management and int business,

Waste education only to become a prostitute - unless she wishes to become brothel management in later life  LOL

[benjio]

Waste education only to become a prostitute - unless she wishes to become brothel management in later life  LOL

Good point....out of all the girls I've met in Latin America who were supposedly using prostitution as a means to further their education I've never known one to have actually finished and got a normal job. Most are still doing exactly the same thing.

He tells me, she is going to mexico to “ work” in mexico city and wherever she is going too work they require sexy photos.

I would imagine whatever she's doing in Mexico probably uses the internet to advertise, which means there are sexy pictures of her somewhere on the web. The fact that they spent so much time on her makeup for the photoshoot leads me to believe this site is going to be showing her face in the pictures. As modern technology increases the efficiency and decreases the cost of things like facial recognition software and online background checks a lot of these women are going to be at the very least sorely disapointed with their limited options after they try and leave that lifestye. And at worst extremely embarrassed if their families somehow figure out what they were doing.

I'll never forget the story I heard of a middle school boy whose mother had done some porn in the late 80's. 30 years later on the other side of the country some of his classmates just happen to run across one of her scenes on the internet and recognized her. The entire family ended up having to move.

[Elexpatriado]

ja ja very funny mr. comedian
 

Huh?  So you're saying you'd marry a hooker as long as she's not a 9 or a 10?  Coming from you, that doesn't surprise me one bit.

[Elexpatriado]

Forget about "friends"as well. Would invite one into your house without nailing everything down?
I sure wouldn't.
This girl Mudd is talking doesn't sound like she was "poor" by any stretch of the imagination. My parents went through WAY worse when they wer growing. Greedy, materialistic narcissist bitch comes to mind.
Sure, not necessary to make a moral judgement,people can do what they want, and it should be legal,  but I wouldn't include any of them as a "friend" . A hooker is NEVER your Friend.

We're on the same page. I've never judged any girl that wanted to sell her body. We all fall short of the glory, right? I have some very good friends in Latin America and the U.S. that are working girls (prostitutes, exotic dancers, etc.). There's a lot to be learned from the smarter ones. But as stated previously...I wouldn't EVER try to turn one into a housewife. Outside of the fact that she may be more sexually experienced and knows a few tricks in bed, I've never understood why any man would.


My only problem is with the many prostitutes/prepagos/GDP's that try to present themselves as something much less sinister when the naive gringo comes to town or hops on a webcam. That pisses me off!    There's too many honest, good girls out there for any man to have to settle for a working girl once he's decided he wants a committed relationship; and there's too many guys out there willing to pay for it and play the sponsor role for any working girl to try and scam an honest guy. I'm about keeping it real. Makes everything much less complicated.

[mudd]

Huh?  So you're saying you'd marry a hooker as long as she's not a 9 or a 10?  Coming from you, that doesn't surprise me one bit.

wow some people are dense , did i say i would ?  duhhhhhh nooooooo

[kai #2]

There is no way in hell I could knowingly or willingly be with a girl with such low standards. Gotta have respect for yourself




Rule #1, Don't feed the trolls

wow what a dense person, did i say i would ?  duhhhhhh nooooooo

[benjio]

Forget about "friends"as well. Would invite one into your house without nailing everything down?
I sure wouldn't.

I can respect that. And I'm definitely not going to spend any significant amount of time on this board defending the character of sex workers but every hooker is not a thief. There's only one reason to invite a hooker into your house and I'm not interested in that either so no need for the nails and hammer regardless.

This girl Mudd is talking doesn't sound like she was "poor" by any stretch of the imagination. My parents went through WAY worse when they wer growing. Greedy, materialistic narcissist bitch comes to mind.
Sure, not necessary to make a moral judgement,people can do what they want, and it should be legal,  but I wouldn't include any of them as a "friend" . A hooker is NEVER your Friend.

I'd imagine there's all kinds of working girls in Latin America. From the ones that are single mothers and see no other way of taking care of their children, to the ones that don't really need the money but name brand, designer hand bags and shoes are much more important to them than their dignity, to the ones that got raped by an uncle from the age of 9 to 15 and the only self worth they can find is in the act of selling their bodies. Like I said...I don't judge either way. Perhaps the word "friend" is a little strong but the word "NEVER" is even worse. What I can honestly say is I grew up in a pretty dangerous neighborhood. I have real, lifelong friends that have done a lot worse than selling their bodies. What they've done doesn't make them any less of a friend to me.

[robert angel]

I know all women who have studio photos and pictures of them in itsy bitsy bikinis, expensive clothes and at high end resorts and hotels aren't all prostitutes or 'sugar babes' (whatever you want to call them) but it sure does makes me wonder.

Odd how so few of the women with profiles like that have a college education.

Wonder just why THAT is?

[Awesome]

I know certain guys here are thinking "How about all those USA girls you have to wine and dine, give chocolates and flowers to, to eventually get them (maybe) into the sack?"-but I still feel it's different.

I'm thinking "what about all those USA girls who are outright prostitutes selling themselves exactly like women in colombia or anywhere else?".



Maybe you guys aren't aware but although prostitution is illegal in the usa it is VERY tolerated and is a THRIVING industry.  I think I've mentioned this before but I live in a city with a population equal to that of medellin and we have WAY MORE escorts, strip clubs, and brothels than medellin could ever hope to have.  And it's the same story in dallas, miami, nyc, dc, san francisco, chicago, la, seattle, etc, etc...  Well I'm not sure if those other cities have outright brothels like we have here, but I do know they are chock full of escorts and strip clubs.  Canadian cities like toronto, montreal, and vancouver are also very well known for their abundant prostitution business.

[robert angel]

I'm thinking "what about all those USA girls who are outright prostitutes selling themselves exactly like women in colombia or anywhere else?".



Maybe you guys aren't aware but although prostitution is illegal in the usa it is VERY tolerated and is a THRIVING industry.  I think I've mentioned this before but I live in a city with a population equal to that of medellin and we have WAY MORE escorts, strip clubs, and brothels than medellin could ever hope to have.  And it's the same story in dallas, miami, nyc, dc, san francisco, chicago, la, seattle, etc, etc...  Well I'm not sure if those other cities have outright brothels like we have here, but I do know they are chock full of escorts and strip clubs.  Canadian cities like toronto, montreal, and vancouver are also very well known for their abundant prostitution business.

If they're the same, doesn't matter what country they're in. Their bodies are a hot commodity, they know it and aren't likely to forget it anytime too soon.

[bcc_1_2]

I would think she might be going to dance in one of the clubs too. I can't vouch 1st hand for strip clubs, but I have heard there are some very nice ones in DF. I'm sure the Mexican businessmen like them some Colombiana sex, but for some reason I would think she's got to be dancing too.


Either way this girl has made her decision. She could go online and meet a nice gringo, but instead she goes and [snip]s for a living. Granted that is no different than the sugarbabbies of the USA... but who wants them either??

[Awesome]

I would think she might be going to dance in one of the clubs too. I can't vouch 1st hand for strip clubs, but I have heard there are some very nice ones in DF. I'm sure the Mexican businessmen like them some Colombiana sex, but for some reason I would think she's got to be dancing too.

Prostitution is legal in mexico and almost all strippers there offer sex for money.  Well, american strip clubs aren't much different actually.


[/size]

She could go online and meet a nice gringo, but instead she goes and [snip]s for a living.

Exactly, so what does that tell you?